
That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Reside Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: Do you know that perimenopause lasts on common 10 years for most girls? And when you think about that ladies make up 50 % of the inhabitants, this can be a vital period of time for a subject that will get largely ignored. So why is that? And as girls, what can we do to take extra management of this piece of our life that has such a huge effect on our high quality of life, even when nobody’s actually speaking about it?
That’s precisely what we’re going to be speaking about right now as we dive in with finest promoting creator and menopause knowledgeable Dr. Liz Lister. There are such a lot of gold nuggets and takeaways on this interview that you just’re most likely going to wish to take notes. So let’s get began.

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Ruth Soukup: At present we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Liz Lister, who’s an OBGYN medical physician, a bestselling creator and speaker, and an knowledgeable in perimenopause and menopause. And right now she’s shedding some critical mild on a subject that’s nonetheless for probably the most half largely underneath ignored and misunderstood by the medical group. Paramenopause, menopause, and hormonal replenishment remedy.
It’s positively a should hear for any girl in your 40s or past. So with out additional ado, I’m so excited to have the ability to introduce you to right now’s interview visitor, Dr. Liz Lister. Dr. Liz, thanks a lot for being right here right now. I’m so excited to speak to you.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Completely. My pleasure, Ruth. Blissful to be right here with you.
Ruth Soukup: Yay. So let’s discuss menopause as a result of it’s an enormous factor. It’s a huge, huge factor. And I believe that Earlier than we try this, although, I would like to only ask you about your self, however I completely flaked out on my first query. Like, so excited to leap into this matter. Can’t even wait. However first, inform us a little bit bit about your background, as a result of I believe that’s truly actually, actually vital.
So inform us about who you might be, what you do. How you bought to be doing what you’re doing now.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Completely. You guess. So initially, I’ve Dr. Liz Lister, and I wish to simply make it easier to out by saying that I went into menopause after I was 43 and I’m 59 now. So every part that we’re going to speak about, all of the questions you might ask and every part that we go over, I’ve personally skilled, requested myself these questions, regarded along with the analysis in addition to my very own expertise.
I’m an OBGYN, board licensed, I finished delivering infants a very long time in the past as a result of I want to sleep at evening. Then I stored narrowing my follow, so I finished doing the foremost surgical procedures, I’ve my little children, they’re each of their 20s now. And I simply stored narrowing issues down. So it received to the purpose the place I used to be solely doing workplace gynecology.
After which I had the chance to essentially turn into a specialist, an knowledgeable within the hormone stability piece. I had written my first e book by that time limit, and I actually cherished it. And in order that’s the place I’ve been now for arising on it. Properly, nearly 20 years of the concentrate on the hormone piece however actually very narrowly taking a look at that.
And I simply love serving to principally girls, males as effectively, actually of all ages, however primarily girls of their forties and fifties stability their hormones and really feel nice. I believe it’s our birthright to really feel nice, to really feel horny and to essentially fulfill on our potential. In order that’s what I’m right here for. It’s my project.
I like that.
Ruth Soukup: I like that. In order that’s attention-grabbing. Did you, you began with hormones actually focusing in on hormones about 20 years in the past. So that might have been earlier than you truly skilled menopause. Did that, did something change for you when you began going by way of it your self? Or is it like, Oh, I do know precisely what’s going to occur.
Or did all of it, did it like form of throw you off a little bit bit?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Okay. Nice query. It didn’t throw me off too badly for a number of vital causes. One is my household background is from Argentina. My mother’s retired from being a health care provider, my grandma, these girls have been unbelievable fashions for me of getting older and getting stronger and staying vibrant.
In order that was crucial. The opposite is that I don’t actually know why, however I used to be at all times tuned in to studying about hormones particularly. That actually has been a theme now that you just make me give it some thought. I keep in mind, that is means, I used to be nonetheless delivering infants and I used to be at a lecture and it was speaking about sure hormones and animal research and the event of breast most cancers.
That is earlier than the Ladies’s Well being Initiative. And I simply keep in mind, I keep in mind the place I used to be after I heard that data. So I suppose I’ve at all times had a specific draw to that. Sort of distinction that angle and after I was in medical faculty I adopted the chief resident into an examination room as a result of that’s what you do while you’re a pupil you comply with different individuals round rather a lot And we went and there was this girl having a number of menopausal signs and truthfully Ruth I don’t keep in mind precisely what we did for her I don’t keep in mind if the physician I used to be following wrote a prescription or not However I do keep in mind how a lot better the lady felt after we listened to her You And talked along with her that left an enormous impression on me.
So I believe that’s most likely simply being heard. Sure.
Ruth Soukup: Wow. Wow. So let’s discuss that. A number of the emotional challenges that you just see that for girls that occurred throughout form of this time of life, proper? Perimenopause menopause. And what’s the distinction? Do you suppose between the bodily and the emotional stuff?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Properly, initially, there’s no separation. You recognize about this, you’ve talked about hormones because the chemistry of our feelings. That’s how I seek advice from hormones. So there’s actually no separation. The entire, the entire phrase, thoughts, physique, it’s a little bit bit deceptive, proper? As a result of our thoughts is totally not separate from the physique.
It’s very built-in. They’re built-in. And so once we take that built-in method we do rather a lot higher. We get rather a lot additional. I believe that there’s an enormous connection and never a coincidence. I keep in mind after I turned 40, I used to be not very completely satisfied about it main as much as it. And I didn’t wish to have a celebration.
After which a buddy of mine who was in her early forties persuaded me. So I had a celebration. It was a number of enjoyable. And as quickly as I turned 40, I used to be like, Oh, Hey, this feels good. That is good. You recognize, you come into your individual, proper? Versus like while you’re in your twenties, I believe lots of people of their twenties.
And Most likely even 30s pondering again for myself may be very externally motivated What are individuals pondering like actually received targeted on that and while you enter your 40s? It’s such a beautiful fabulous alternative in 50s. It simply will get higher Simply that’s what I hear.
Ruth Soukup: Like, I believe the 40s have been my finest decade up to now.
Like, I’m like, that is nice. If the 50 is even higher than this, then convey it on. I’m going to have the most important occasion ever.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Precisely. Precisely. Once I turned 50, that’s after I went and climbed Kilimanjaro. That was
Ruth Soukup: wonderful.
Dr. Liz Lyster: That’s wonderful. Anyone listening who likes climbing. You possibly can climb Mount Kilimanjaro. I imply, you must put together, you must do issues to prepare, nevertheless it’s not, you understand, my mom was very afraid that I used to be going to have ice picks and clamps on my sneakers and stuff.
She was like picturing…It’s an extended, stunning hike. And so I set myself that problem. Then I discovered from considered one of my sufferers, she goes, Oh, that’s attention-grabbing. Once I turned 50, I went to Italy and did a cooking class for every week. And I believed, huh, I by no means, I’m
Ruth Soukup: getting all of the concepts now.
I adore it. I adore it. So what are the, let’s take it again to. Parabenopause menopause. Like what are, are there totally different phases that you just undergo and the way are you aware what, which section you’re in?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Okay, nice query. I prefer to reply this query going backwards. So menopause is one entire 12 months with out your interval, you then’re in menopause.
That’s the kind of official definition. Common age is 51. Okay. Then there’s years earlier than that the place every part’s marching alongside, common month-to-month interval, feeling good, sleeping effectively, managing your weight, that issues are doing fairly effectively, that’s good hormone stability and that’s pre. Then there’s this huge area in between which is perimenopause and that may embrace all types of disruptions.
Progesterone goes down first, then estrogen begins to say no or go up and it begins to get erratic. In the meantime, testosterone and DHEA are declining, a number of modifications occurring on high of the menstrual cycle modifications which are like everyday modifications. You’ve received these, that, that’s the perimenopause section.
Ruth Soukup: And the way, how lengthy does that section final
Dr. Liz Lyster: or extra years, 10
Ruth Soukup: or extra years?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Sure. That lengthy. Not for everyone, not everybody, however what’s most vital for girls listening is that if something appears off that to not take the physician’s phrase. Sadly, a number of my sufferers that come to me as a result of their physician mentioned, effectively, you’re nonetheless having your interval.
So it might probably’t be your hormones. And that’s completely improper. Mm-Hmm. That’s not true. .
Ruth Soukup: So it sounds prefer it’s nearly like that is nonetheless form of an ignored Oh, it’s only a girl factor form of factor. Yeah. In drugs, trendy drugs.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Is that true? You may have that drawback in trendy drugs. We’ve it in medical analysis.
Proper, I used to be studying one thing the opposite day about situations that have an effect on lower than 1 % of the inhabitants get lots of of hundreds of thousands of {dollars}, after which situations that have an effect on girls, which is half of the inhabitants, will get Below 5, 000, 000 {dollars} funding, or some large discrepancy like that. And that, after all, is said to the pharmaceutical trade as we presently have that.
So it’s a problem. It’s a, it’s positively difficult.
Ruth Soukup: And why do you. I imply, even from a pharmaceutical standpoint, like pure revenue looks as if it will be larger if you happen to’re coping with half of the inhabitants. So why is, why are girls so ignored?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Properly, initially, once we discuss something hormonal and hormone balancing, we wish to persist with bioidentical and bioidentical signifies that it happens in nature.
Which additionally then signifies that you can not take a patent out One thing so
Ruth Soukup: they’ll’t generate income on it. In order that they’re not .
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah sure methods sure issues I imply if we have been targeted on well being and wellness and stopping sickness That will be an incredible shift. And I believe that ladies are taking that upon ourselves to, to convey that shift.
Ladies wish to, we wish to stop sickness. We’re 80 % of healthcare shoppers anyway. So we love the boys and we wish them to be effectively as effectively. And a number of, and males acknowledge this. Plenty of the boys that I see in my follow is as a result of a girl of their life despatched them. So we actually, we actually are, girls may be the tail that wags the canine at a societal stage and for certain we have now to try this at a person stage.
It’s important to advocate for your self.
Ruth Soukup: For certain. How do you suppose having a way of group helps girls throughout this stage of life? Do you suppose that makes an enormous distinction? Do you see that along with your shoppers?
Dr. Liz Lyster: I do. I positively suppose it makes a distinction. I believe it’s crucial. I like the subject of the blue zones and there’s a specific blue zone the place girls kind little teams of 4, little teams of 4, and they’re simply there for one another by way of thick and skinny ups and downs.
So I believe group is crucial. I believe that it will get a little bit bit tough. In the USA, our tradition may be very individualistic. It’s all about, I can powerful this out, I’m gonna push by way of. So a number of the ladies, you understand, I maintain busy girls. Plenty of them are professionals very A lot of challenges that they’re coping with as they’re rising older and going by way of these modifications And it’s simply that it’s so vital to recollect That we we’d like one another.
We’d like group I believe that’s taking place. I believe that’s why Podcasts are rising. On-line teams are rising. So long as it doesn’t turn into a spot of complaining that that may be an issue with on-line data, it may be a little bit bit restricted.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. And, however I additionally see the, the, the wonderful aspect of that, like in our, in our program, as an example, we have now probably the most amazingly supportive group.
And I believe, you understand, I’ve been doing on-line enterprise for a very long time. I’ve grown numerous totally different manufacturers and communities and issues. And the one factor that I see with this demographic, proper, that we’re on this forties and fifties is nearly for girls. And I don’t know if you happen to’ve too, proper. Once you’re Targeted on your loved ones and elevating your children.
Most of your social community tends to be the dad and mom of your folks, children, proper? You’re in sport, you’re going to sporting occasions. And so your folks with all of the, the sporting although, to your dad and mom or the, whoever, after which the entire sudden your children. Become older they usually go away the home or they’re not doing these actions anymore.
And that entire community form of falls aside. And I see that so typically from girls type of hitting this stage of life the place swiftly your children are older. So it’s not simply, you’re coping with all of the hormonal modifications which are taking place. You’re coping with swiftly, I really feel like I’ve misplaced my sense of self.
I don’t know who I’m. As a result of my children are grown and that was my entire life. And I, now I don’t actually have buddies as a result of these individuals I used to speak to you on a regular basis about our youngsters. We don’t actually have that in widespread anymore. And so now we’re not, you’re not doing like, it’s a, it may be a really like weirdly isolating, discombobulating form of section of life, I believe for extra causes than simply the hormonal stuff that’s occurring, do you see that too?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah, completely. I positively see that. That’s why I’m so captivated with getting the hormones balanced as a result of in any other case you possibly can actually find yourself in a darkish place.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah. Due to
Dr. Liz Lyster: all these modifications taking place round us, I believe it’s so vital. I imply, we have now to work our brains. We’ve to maintain up our pursuits.
And so I like encouraging youthful girls in that space as effectively. What are your pursuits? It’s at all times that the, the one film, it’s a Julia Roberts film the place, how does she like her eggs? The place it takes her rather a lot, she goes by way of rather a lot personally, and by the tip of it, she has to face the query, effectively, what do I like?
Oh, I don’t suppose I’ve seen that film. It’s nice, I’ll consider the title, I’ll point out it. Is it
Ruth Soukup: the? Eat, pray, love. Is that the one?
Dr. Liz Lyster: It’s not that one. I wish to say Runaway Bride. Oh, I wish to say that one. I’ll, I’ll double test on that. However we’ll put it within the present notes. That’s what that’s was my takeaway from that film.
Yeah. And he or she spent a lot time and that is what we’re speaking about is we as girls. We spend a lot time taking good care of everyone else. One of many phrases I like isn’t any airplane captain ever mentioned, be sure you assist everybody else earlier than you set your oxygen masks on.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah.
Dr. Liz Lyster: No one, no person ever mentioned that, and no person ever will.
Proper. And I believe that that’s, That’s the chance, that’s the, the silver lining of all of these distractions and busy that we do when the youngsters are youthful or when we have now different, earlier in our careers, that form of factor. After which we get to paramenopause and even menopause and, and it, it’s like an entire new world.
Alternative to see what it’s that we like. What are we thinking about? What will we wish to spend the following few many years doing?

Ruth Soukup: And the way do you wish to, and the way do you wish to really feel good throughout that?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Sure. Thanks for saying that. Trigger for me, it goes with out saying. So thanks for highlighting that. And I wish to additionally, I at all times discuss in regards to the trendy drawback that we have now as a result of Ruth, solely like 100 years in the past, most girls didn’t attain age 50.
Actually? Sure. Like 5 % of ladies made it to age 50.
Ruth Soukup: Wow.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah. Take into consideration earlier than all the fashionable drugs that we have now in hospital care and childbirth and that type of factor. Oh yeah. And now half, at the least half of us can count on to dwell into our 80s or much more. And scientific research present that individuals who envision themselves dwelling longer truly dwell longer.
Yeah.
Ruth Soukup: Is that true? Yep. That’s attention-grabbing. You recognize, however, however then it comes proper again to what do you do proper now to maintain your self? As a result of I used to be, I simply interviewed someone for this podcast final week and he or she was a geriatric bodily therapist. I believe that’s what, what her profession was. And, and he or she took an interest.
And after she went on, on maternity go away, she grew to become thinking about serving to girls get wholesome as a result of she sees the tip consequence, proper? She spends, she was spending each single day working with individuals who have zero high quality of life, proper? They’re alive. They’ve made it to 80, however they’re not dwelling. And while you see that, and while you see individuals attending to that section the place it’s, it’s nearly on the level the place it’s too late, it’s too little, too late, even you attempt to assist them, however there’s not rather a lot you are able to do.
Then you definately go, the place will we again as much as? And it’s proper now it’s proper on the stage of life the place now you’ve got this. And I cherished the best way that you just phrased that you just mentioned, it’s a chance. It is a chance to resolve what do I need the following 30 years of my life to appear to be, and the way do I wish to really feel throughout that, that point?
I prefer it. It like form of provides me chills after I give it some thought.
Dr. Liz Lyster: I do know me too. Yeah, precisely. So, okay. Proper.
Ruth Soukup: So let’s return. How, like, how do you differentiate between you’re having these hormonal points, proper? You’re in perimenopause, which is 10 years for, for most individuals. Then there’s all this different stuff occurring too, proper?
All of those different signs that we’re experiencing. So how do girls differentiate between perimenopause and signs and different well being points that they’re experiencing and the way do you. Deal with them. Do you deal with them individually? Do you deal with them collectively? What’s what does that appear to be?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Okay? I’ll reply these form of in reverse order Positively treating every part collectively as a result of the purpose is the quote is her high quality of life for every of my sufferers My function is her high quality of life However step one is taking a look at each single factor that’s occurring the circumstances and the way they’re altering, what’s she feeling?
Is she having sleep points, temper points, sexual operate points, menstrual points, weight and metabolism points? Any of these are normally going to at the least have a hormonal element. Okay, so there’s that. Then after all, there’s the entire vital life-style selections. As I say to my sufferers, I can not out hormone your life-style.
I can not provide you with a recipe which means you can, like for me, return to after I was 20s and youthful and I may simply go to Baskin Robbins each time I wished. As quickly as I discover that magic tablet, I’ll let everyone know. However proper now, what we have now are the vital selections that we have now to make in addition to the hormone stability.
Let’s see, the place else did we wish to go along with that?
Ruth Soukup: So differentiating the signs between the pyramids,
Dr. Liz Lyster: proper? So at all times a hormonal element in my opinion, that’s my bias. That’s my angle on issues. And so I at all times, at all times have a look at that. In order that’s the very first thing is the signs. The second may be very, I do very detailed lab work.
Okay. And my sufferers normally, by the point they get to me, they, They’ve tried to advocate for themselves. They’ve tried to request some testing. Plenty of medical doctors, if she’s nonetheless having her interval, she’s in her 40s and even into her 50s, if she nonetheless has her cycle, the physician gained’t even run any exams. And in the event that they’re keen to, they’ll do like two or three exams.
Proper. Actually, actually only a few. So for me, the second step may be very detailed Workup normally blood work and generally urine testing as effectively afterward possibly saliva testing However I like to start out with what individuals can get executed on their insurance coverage I don’t work with insurance coverage as a result of it’s too constricting. I spend means an excessive amount of time with my sufferers. I did that previously.
I attempted to invoice insurance coverage and I couldn’t make ends meet with my workplace as a result of I simply wasn’t cramming in sufficient individuals. You weren’t quick sufficient. I simply was taking too lengthy with every of my sufferers and that was for normal gynecology. With perimenopause and menopause, there’s rather a lot to speak about. So differentiating.
In order that’s, that’s the second step. The third is deciphering to optimum, not simply. Are you within the regular vary? And I’m saying air quotes as a result of numerous my sufferers, once more, by the point they get to me, they’d this or that examined they usually have been instructed it was regular as a result of it was within the vary, like barely, like squeaked into the naked backside of the vary.
Yeah. And after I discuss with them, like, no, that’s, that’s within the vary, nevertheless it’s not optimum. In order that’s the third. After which the fourth is what I do when it comes to. Utilizing pure approaches, bioidentical hormones, dietary supplements, life-style selections, every part I can do. After which the fifth is the long run adjusting, following up.
In order that’s actually vital, is the being conscious that there’s a hormonal piece to these signs. And second is the detailed testing. I’d say to reply the query, that’s actually the 2 primary. These are my entire 5 steps, however the first two are the primary, yeah, it’s vital, I
Ruth Soukup: suppose what stands out to me and simply listening to you discuss this and the method that you just’re taking, proper.
Couple of issues. Primary, the truth that to be able to get what you’re speaking about in our Fashionable crappy system that we have now with insurance coverage corporations and the, like, get them in, get them out, prescribe the meds, prescribe the meds as rapidly as attainable and go to the following one. Like you must pay for that privately, principally is what you’re saying.
Like, and that’s not, everybody can try this. Proper. That’s proper. So how unhappy is that? And what a tragic commentary on the place we’re with drugs when there’s. Primary, so many issues that you are able to do from a life-style perspective and a pure perspective to be treating what the foundation causes of the entire points that your expertise are, fairly than simply placing a bandaid on it and, and, and taking one other prescription.
And. And but, so what does someone do in the event that they’re like, I can’t afford to spend 1000’s of {dollars} to go to a personal place. I’ve insurance coverage. I have to undergo the right channels. How do you discover, how do you discover a health care provider that’s going to be keen to truly have a look at the entire image? Trigger that’s the second factor that stood out to me is that you just’re wanting on the entire image.
You’re doing a full panel. You’re taking a look at all of the items. Whereas most drugs right now is. piecemeal, piecemeal, piecemeal, piecemeal, piecemeal. And it’s so fragmented that it doesn’t actually, it by no means actually will get to the foundation of the matter.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Certainly. That’s a very vital and difficult query. Initially, it’s being true to 1’s personal expertise.
So if I’m going to search for a health care provider, I have to honor my expertise. I’ll hear nice issues in regards to the physician, but when the workers Don’t return my calls, they’re not taking good care of me, then I’ll have to hold wanting. In order that’s crucial. One other is that sadly the generations of medical doctors are an issue proper now.
We’ve an entire era of medical doctors educated in replenishment remedy into huge. Deep hassle. And it seems that they studied the improper girls, used the improper hormones and gave them the improper, these improper hormones, the improper means. So there’s issues that we’ve realized and there are medical doctors on the market who sustain with the literature American menopause society, which now’s.
menopause society. They do fairly job conserving medical doctors updated. They’re, they’re nearly there. However they do an enormous overview of the literature each 5 years. So the newest one was in 2022. And so they made a number of issues very, very clear. What’s good is that it’s, I imply, it’s an extended paper. It’s like 20 pages of very detailed, condensed overview of literature, and many others.
However they do job spelling issues out. So, for instance, in the newest one, they realized one thing that I and others like me have identified for a very long time. So, Which was that the Ladies’s Well being Initiative was improper a few cutoff by when you could use hormones, in any other case you’ll find yourself in hassle.
In order that they removed that cutoff begin date. Additionally they acknowledged, once more, one thing that many people have identified for a very very long time, that there actually isn’t a required age to cease if somebody chooses, if a girl chooses to replenish some hormones. There’s no onerous age the place she has to cease. That’s actually vital.
After which additionally they did a little bit extra discussing of high quality of life which for instance, vaginal dryness, ache with intercourse, recurrent bladder infections, that’s all simply remedied by very low doses of vaginal estrogen, which doesn’t get into the system. So fortuitously, these sorts of efforts assist common medical doctors do higher.
For serving to their sufferers. So I’m seeing that I’m seeing girls who graduate from their care with me. What we get every part dialed in, we get them feeling nice. After which by that point, possibly I’ve had the chance to at the least do e mail speaking with their physician or ship them the menopause society place assertion.
I don’t know in the event that they learn it, however at the least they’re, you understand, perform a little,
Ruth Soukup: little schooling. I like that.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Sure. Yeah. However I, I’m listening to that. So it’s, it’s crucial to just be sure you resonate along with your physician, that they’re listening to you, that they’re not gaslighting you, telling you that you’re simply getting older and also you simply should dwell with it.
I name that the J phrase, simply,
Ruth Soukup: yeah, no, we completely don’t. However let’s discuss a little bit bit extra in regards to the hormone alternative remedy. So while you’re speaking about HRT, are there a number of totally different varieties, proper? Is there. Pharmaceutical and pure variations of this, and since you have been speaking about bioidentical hormones, is that the identical factor?
Is that various things? Clarify, clarify how this works to me.

Dr. Liz Lyster: All proper. I like this matter. It’s considered one of, considered one of my favourite matters. And I at all times prefer to admit straight out the gate that I’m positively biased in favor of hormones. There are such a lot of research, 1000’s and 1000’s of ladies studied, Within the U S in Europe, in different places that affirm that the suitable forms of hormones administered the suitable means may be extraordinarily useful.
Okay. So I prefer to say my bias proper out of the gate. Okay. I like famous. Yeah. I like to make use of the phrase bioidentical fairly than the phrase pure. That is the place medical doctors get a little bit prickly when, once we discuss pure as a result of There are issues that happen in nature that may be very harmful for our well being.
So we wish to watch out with that. The phrase pure is utilized in a advertising and marketing setting to suggest that it’s routinely protected. Sure. It’s vital to watch out round that. So I like the phrase bioidentical as a result of what it means is that the hormone that you just’re replenishing with that you just’re placing into your physique is both Virtually or precisely the identical as what our feminine human our bodies used to make loads of.
Ruth Soukup: All proper. Okay.
Dr. Liz Lyster: So our hormone ranges begin to decline at the least in our thirties for lots of stuff in our world and toxins and whatnot. Some individuals undergo it even youthful, however at the least by our thirties, even underneath completely wholesome situations, our hormone ranges naturally begin to decline, particularly as effectively males as effectively, however girls for certain.
After which issues additional change after which if we’re fortunate and we dwell lengthy sufficient, our ovaries will go into full retirement. Transcribed After which we’re in menopause. Sure. And so replenishing a few of these hormones, once more, to not the, to not excessive excessive ranges, however simply sufficient to have a terrific high quality of life.
That’s my angle, my method. Bioidentical is especially vital with progesterone. Oh, and Lysate. Progesterone. The ladies’s well being initiative that received the hormones in hassle as a result of It truly issued the press launch earlier than the examine was revealed and the place we medical doctors may learn it and see what was taking place and so the headlines have been prompt of an elevated development in direction of extra circumstances of breast most cancers
Ruth Soukup: Nonetheless
Dr. Liz Lyster: These girls, I keep in mind I mentioned improper girls, improper hormones, improper route of administration.
In order that they got a non bioidentical progestin. Not, they weren’t given progesterone. We now know, we have now many, many research, huge research, an enormous examine in France that was performed that confirms what I’m speaking about, that bioidentical progesterone doesn’t have that elevated tendency.
Ruth Soukup: Huh. How do you get one and never get, not get caught with the opposite?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Fortunately, it’s very straightforward. And there’s at the least one bioidentical progesterone that’s pharmaceutically obtainable, normally lined on individuals’s insurance coverage. And in order that’s a simple one. It is a straightforward one for our listeners. Okay. In the event that they’re feeling progesterone calms, the mind helps with anxiousness, numerous anxiousness in our world right now.
Progesterone can actually assist. It calms the mind to assist with sleep. So girls who’re being given a band assist sleeping tablet? Generally progesterone is the foundation trigger, is decrease progesterone. As you talked about, the foundation trigger, that’s the place we wish to function. And so it’s very, crucial to have or not it’s bioidentical.
And fortunately that’s, it’s on the market and obtainable. Lotions can be found over-the-counter. The progesterone oral capsules for some girls do even higher when it comes to how they’re damaged down and the way they calm the mind and assist with sleep.
Ruth Soukup: Huh. Fascinating.
Dr. Liz Lyster: What do
Ruth Soukup: you sometimes suggest on your sufferers?
Like what’s the commonest, the commonest method that you just take while you say, okay, I believe you could go on bioidentical hormones. Right here’s what I like to recommend. What does that appear to be?
Dr. Liz Lyster: All proper. So initially, it appears just like the measuring ranges, which is to get a baseline. Okay. There’s a number of controversy.
Is blood testing the easiest way? We may argue about that, nevertheless it’s a baseline. It tells us the place we’re beginning. It additionally exhibits if issues are very low as a result of then girls suppose, okay, I’m not imagining issues.
Ruth Soukup: I
Dr. Liz Lyster: even have
Ruth Soukup: no, it’s good to have that affirmation,
Dr. Liz Lyster: proper? Precisely. Precisely. Precisely. So I at all times begin with sleep.
Sleep is critically vital for hormone stability. If a girl isn’t sleeping, we have a look at why is she waking up with sizzling flashes or evening sweats. So progesterone may very well be very useful and is an easy beginning place. One other step may be estrogen. With every part I do, beginning very low dose and dealing up from there.
That’s my technique. I believe it’s a good way for girls to not find yourself with unwanted side effects from an excessive amount of of something. Estrogen, we have now now additionally realized the opposite second out of the 2 most vital factors about hormone alternative or replenishment remedy, as I prefer to name it, is progesterone being bioidentical and estrogen being by way of the pores and skin.

Ruth Soukup: Oh.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Within the Ladies’s Well being Initiative examine, they got oral estrogen, and that goes into the abdomen over to the liver, and the liver then is stimulated to make clotting elements. So while you use estrogen by way of the pores and skin, and that is one thing that’s occurred in the previous few years, is that ladies can now get this stuff on-line, which I believe that’s okay.
However finally generally a number of the individuals who find yourself coming to me and like, okay, I’ve been doing this on my own for some time. I get ordered my very own blood work and I ordered my very own hormones and I need somebody to look over all of this. Yeah. So I actually would like that medical doctors get with this system and be taught and, and rise up to hurry on the literature to allow them to assist their sufferers.
So there may very well be a patch pharmaceutically obtainable. It may be a gel pharmaceutically obtainable. I positively use compounding pharmacies. They’re effectively regulated, opposite to widespread perception. It’s totally different than how the pharmaceutical trade is regulated. So as a result of medical doctors are solely taught in that paradigm, they have an inclination to dismiss compounded hormone preparations.
However for instance, for girls to have the ability to get any testosterone, Not less than in the USA requires utilizing a compounding pharmacy and testosterone can assist all types of points mind sharpness So it helps clear up mind fog helps with metabolism helps with temper It may be a really it might probably assist with libido It’s not the one factor that impacts libido for us as girls, we’re very complicated creatures.
Plenty of issues contribute to motivation and intercourse drive, proper? Libido’s not solely about intercourse. So all of that’s to say that utilizing the suitable, that, that’s my method, utilizing the suitable safer alternate options, estrogen by way of the pores and skin and bioidentical progesterone. These are sometimes going to be a very nice begin.
Ruth Soukup: Like it. So I really feel like I may ask a billion questions on this.
Dr. Liz Lyster: The
Ruth Soukup: section of life I’m in. However is there any means, so is there any option to not do hormones, proper? Like, and that is only a query for myself of like, okay, at what level do I would like to start out serious about this? You recognize, I’m consuming a wholesome life-style.
I’m advocating a wholesome life-style. I’m speaking about hormonal stability. I’m speaking On a regular basis by way of making the suitable life-style selections and meals selections, as a result of what you’re consuming, it makes an enormous, has a huge effect on all these hormones. However is there some extent that none of that may work and that you must be on hormones or do some individuals just do nice with out the hormones?
Dr. Liz Lyster: All proper. I’m once more saying my bias in favor of hormones. What I’ll say is that each, all these good selections are so vital for therefore many causes.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah.
Dr. Liz Lyster: And. There, if we’re blessed to dwell lengthy sufficient, there comes some extent the place the ovaries go into full retirement.
Ruth Soukup: Sure. And might’t cease that irrespective of how good you eat.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah. I imply, there’s, there’s individuals researching the best way to cease that, the best way to, I imply, after all they’re taking a look at it from a fertility standpoint, how, I imply, I’m 59, the best way to let girls my age have infants, which I’m not towards that. Nonetheless, do I believe that we have to not have menopause? I positively don’t suppose that I’ve already mentioned, I believe it’s an enormous alternative and never having a interval anymore is a okay with me.
All proper. So there’s, there’s huge upsides to all of this. There’s an upside. Like the graceful, numerous issues easy out. So for instance, our bones, our bones, our bones, the easiest factor we are able to do for our bones. After we go into menopause for the long run preservation of bone density goes to be a low dose of estrogen.
Ruth Soukup: That’s large.
Dr. Liz Lyster: It’s actually, actually important. You recognize, my mother had breast most cancers when she was in her late sixties. Now she’s in her late eighties and so she’s doing superior. She was principally cured. I do know we don’t use that phrase with breast most cancers, however that’s what occurred. It’s so. She received taken off of her hormones and he or she I’ve simply watched her over time.
She’s misplaced most likely like 5 inches in top as her vertebrae compress in her backbone and he or she, you understand, identical to journeys and falls and hits the hand on a desk or a counter and breaks one thing. So that is Actually, probably the most vital elements that hormone replenishment may be useful with.
Ruth Soukup: So it goes again to that high quality of life while you’re 80s.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Precisely. Precisely. And that is reminding me to say one thing that I at all times say to sufferers is tremendous vital is that if a girl needs to make use of some hormone replenishment, it doesn’t imply she’s caught utilizing it without end. Plenty of girls, particularly who’re actually targeted on making nice selections and being in nice well being, are involved that, effectively, I’m having such unhealthy sizzling flashes that I can’t sleep by way of the evening, but when I take estrogen to assist that, I’ll be caught taking it without end and that’s not true.
Put it into these phases proper now in a section of actually feeling horrible. My vaginal dryness is so unhealthy. I can’t be intimate with my husband or my accomplice, you understand, like no high quality of life. So treating, addressing these points, I can really feel snug that I can maintain these points and I’m not dedicated without end.
I can take it a number of years at a time.
Ruth Soukup: I like that. I believe that that additionally like feels very comforting of not having to decide to one thing for without end. And I additionally really feel like I may hold speaking about this for a really very long time, however I wish to be aware of time. Inform us a little bit bit extra about what it’s that you just do and the way we are able to discover you.
Like, how can individuals discover you? You’ve written a number of books and you’ve got another stuff occurring. So inform us about that.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Completely. I’ve all types of issues occurring. At all times. My web site is at all times the easiest way for individuals to achieve me: https://drlizmd.com/ Folks can write to me, ask me questions, join my e-newsletter that I ship sometimes.
I’d love to provide your listeners a free copy digital copy of my most up-to-date e book, which is Go For Nice: Dr. Liz’s Information to Thrive at Each Age. Like it. GATE is an acronym, achieve information, which your listeners do, understand the reality about hormones, which we talked about, discover your expectations. No magic bullets.
Sorry. Spoiler alert. Advocate for your self and T is for thrive.
Ruth Soukup: I adore it.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Deal with feeling nice at all ages. I actually contemplate menopause for me. Once more, I went in after I was 43. So it was a very long time in the past. So I walked the stroll of a number of what I discuss and do with my sufferers. So I actually contemplate it to be an enormous alternative.
So I’m making a group referred to as the Miracle of Menopause. And trigger, trigger that’s how I have a look at it. It’s actually a miraculous time of life. We get to redefine ourselves, possibly outline ourselves if we have been being outlined by others to this point. So I believe it’s only a fantastic alternative as a result of when girls, once we’re doing effectively, Everybody round us does higher.
Ruth Soukup: That’s so true. So true. Oh, Dr. Liz, it was so wonderful to speak to you and every part that you just simply talked about and your e book that you’re giving to everyone, which is so extremely beneficiant.
So get that and positively seize the e book. Try the Miracle Menopause Community. If that is an space of your life, you’re on the lookout for extra help. And simply thanks a lot for being with us right now.