That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Dwell Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: What if I informed you that irrespective of the way you’re feeling proper now or what well being points you is perhaps battling, there’s one mineral you would begin taking that will make you’re feeling noticeably higher inside simply in the future. Sounds virtually too good to be true. Doesn’t it?
That’s what I assumed too, till I spent a while speaking to right this moment’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean.
Dr. Dean is among the nation’s foremost specialists in magnesium and the influence it may well have in your well being. And I acquired to inform you what she has to share is fairly compelling. And the perfect half is it’s fairly easy.
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As we speak we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Carolyn Dean, who’s a doctor and naturopathic doctor. In addition to one of many nation’s main specialists in magnesium and the creator of the brand new guide, Magnesium: The Lacking Hyperlink to Whole Well being. And right this moment she’s sharing some particulars in regards to the influence magnesium can have in your well being as together with why so many people are magnesium poor and the steps which you can take to right away begin feeling higher.
Like I stated, it’s fairly compelling. So with out additional ado, I’m very excited to have the ability to introduce you to right this moment’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean. Carolyn, thanks a lot for being right here right this moment. I’m so excited to speak to you.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thanks. Thanks, Ruth. I’ve been watching, not watching, listening to your podcast and also you’ve been interviewed fairly a couple of occasions by my good friend, Michael Sandler.
In order that was enjoyable. Nicely, anyway, I’m simply leaping in.
I’m a medical physician and a naturopath. However I believe I’m a naturopath at coronary heart. I did my medical coaching first and They didn’t dissuade me from wanting to assist individuals with life-style and simply extra constructive pondering, non-drugs.
And that was again within the mid 70s once I went to med faculty. And there actually wasn’t that a lot details about options. There was no well being meals retailer. Within the metropolis the place I did my medical coaching, which was Halifax, Nova Scotia. So I wasn’t deterred by what I discovered in med faculty, though it was all drug oriented they usually laughed at me trigger I made my very own yogurt they usually laughed at me once I was, puncturing an apple with acupuncture needles, as a result of that was my elective.
I discovered an anesthesiologist within the hospital, a Chinese language gentleman, who was doing an acupuncture clinic after hours. So he stated to me as soon as, yeah, you already know, I do all this medical stuff and type of, you already know, intrude with individuals through the day, however then I make up for it once I do my acupuncture. So I had a whole lot of assist in staying with options after which in my follow, it was, as I stated, I follow as a medical physician, however largely doing naturopathic medication.
I sincerely thought by now, all docs could be doing nutrient primarily based medication, however they sadly they went to the darkish aspect. Significantly, much more.
Ruth: Nicely, it surprises me to speak to listen to you say you went to medical faculty within the seventies and it was already very a lot primarily based on remedy and prescriptions and simply probably not any options even again as a result of that’s—you already know, 70s weren’t that not too long ago and but now you’re proper. It’s gotten full. It’s gotten fully worse and like actually dangerous.
Dr. Dean I bear in mind one in every of my clinicians saying solely give a medicine so long as it takes the affected person to get again on their toes.
And now we’ve acquired these lifelong medicines for diabetes, for ldl cholesterol, for you title it. So it’s gone very medical and all of the unwanted side effects from all these medication. I imply, there are tons of of them. And worst of all is in my world, as a result of I’m an skilled on magnesium. They deplete magnesium.
Plenty of these medication are simply in-built such a means. Plenty of them have fluoride molecules hooked up to them to make them simpler to get throughout fats cell membranes. Our cell membranes are product of fats and these medication get by way of, however. Within the intestines, these medication will be damaged down by the intestinal micro organism they usually’ll launch this fluoride.
So then we’re poisoned and the fluoride it is going to bind I believe primarily to magnesium as a result of magnesium may be very reactive. I don’t know that for certain. There’s no research. Nobody’s this. It’s my conjecture that when, as a result of chemically, magnesium will bind to fluoride, you get an MgF2, and that compound known as phthalate deposits in tendons and joints and ligaments.
And what’s the black field warning on ciprofloxacin, which is a fluoride drug? It’s tendon rupture. Individuals will take, a whole lot of athletes will take Cipro. They’re giving it, Oh, I’ve acquired a chilly. I’ve acquired a recreation developing, you already know, give me a drug. They take Cipro and generally it’s on one, you already know, one prescription.
Generally it’s cumulative they usually find yourself with tendon rupture. And we see that. I imply, I’m certain you’ve had purchasers who’ve had tendon rupture and it may very well be from as A fluoride drug. So anyway, the medication should not good. Yeah. So what we do is attempt to use nutrient constructing blocks in order that the physique is robust in order that it may well recuperate from sickness or harm.
I had a horrible fall a couple of months in the past. I crashed on my elbow and my knee didn’t break a factor. I swelled. Individuals thought footage of my arm or my leg as a result of it was so swollen. And also you recuperate. I’m 75. I ought to have damaged many bones. And it’s a testomony to how I dwell my life and my vitamins that I didn’t.
And that’s what I would like individuals to study. That there are constructing blocks they usually’re the fundamentals. You already know, they’re your nutritional vitamins. A, B, C, D, E, what else? After which your minerals. And like I stated I’m I’m actually keen on magnesium. And what I’ve accomplished with the mineral world is created a picometer sized, stabilized, ionic type, Of all of the minerals I work with in order that they’re instantly absorbed into the cells.
They don’t run out within the bowels or the urine. So the physique will get what it wants and it doesn’t should be excessive dose. So that you get your magnesium, your calcium, in fact, however in our world, we now have an excessive amount of calcium. Ladies are informed to take calcium dietary supplements to guard their bones, however they’re not informed about calcium.
Or about magnesium and boron and molybdenum, all of the completely different minerals that go to make the bone and collagen. And which means vitamin C. Entire meals, vitamin C and ascorbic acid. If you’d like your ligaments and tissue in your physique typically, you want your collagen. I imply, as we age, what gravity does to us is magnified if we don’t have sufficient collagen.
So there’s all, they’re simply fundamental constructing blocks, however see what I’ve found is and I’ve written it on this guide, I’ve 65 medical circumstances that may actually be magnesium deficiency. And if we don’t deal with them with magnesium, then we give medication after which the medication make us worse. So we’ve gotten into this horrible bind and proper now I’m not, as you’ve heard, I haven’t talked about any model names of my merchandise that the FDA received’t let me say that my formulation may also help individuals deal with or forestall illness.
We rely on podcasts like yours for us to get the knowledge on the market for individuals to know that. You already know, with magnesium deficiency, you may have acid reflux disease, you may have Alzheimer’s and angina and atherosclerosis and nervousness. I imply, take a look at the nervousness in our world. Nervousness and panic assaults and even despair.
And I’ve heard your story. I do know what you’ve gone by way of. And if I might have solely had you and, you already know, soaked you in Epsom salt and gave you magnesium and, you already know, some B nutritional vitamins for certain, you’ll have You already know, had an additional degree of coping so that you simply didn’t should face what you face. So there are mind results with vitamins.
And as a substitute of giving the vitamins, the minerals and the, you already know, the easy nutritional vitamins and omega 3 fatty acids, and naturally, vitamin D. Then we’re confronted with signs that then we both take medication for, or we take an entire host of herbs and, you already know, no matter, ashwagandhi and herbs that, in the event that they’re not natural.
They’re not secure to take.
Ruth: Can I interrupt you for only a second and we will perhaps again up slightly bit as a result of I really feel like we, we talked about a whole lot of issues . And I, so I’d like to interrupt it down just a bit extra methodically for people who find themselves listening, who for who that is like all model new data, proper?
So let’s identical to perceive and begin with slightly bit like, of like how, so that you went to medical faculty and also you had been occupied with like pure different strategies from the very starting, or was there one thing that occurred in your personal, by way of your personal expertise that basically acquired you enthusiastic about type of following down this path?
As a result of it’s completely different than what they’re educating in medical faculties. And apparently even again within the Nineteen Seventies, and likewise it’s completely different from the norms. So what was it that type of acquired you desirous to even go down like a special, take a special method?
Dr. Dean I assume I used to be simply curious once I was in my teenagers and my then boyfriend, now husband of 58 years, we started touring and from Dartmouth, Halifax, Nova Scotia, we ended up in California through the hippie days and we weren’t hippie, hippies, we weren’t druggies, however there was a diet revolution, Adele Davis, Pavarola, Jonathan Wright.
And so they had a couple of books and the individuals we had been staying with had a library. So I spent my time in that library and on the conventions with these unique well being specialists. And so I simply caught the bug. And I discovered as a lot as I might, however what occurred is once I tried to move on the knowledge, individuals weren’t that .
So lastly, once I was in honors biology in college, some youngsters, younger boys, males I knew in my lessons, they only acquired into medical faculty. So I stated, nicely, that’s for me. And I entered into the following semester. I simply occurred to have all of the stipulations. So I went into medication with the thought that, hey, you already know, perhaps individuals received’t hearken to me if I’ve a medical diploma.
However as I already stated, you already know, that I imply, I used to be type of castigated as a result of I spoke pure issues. I might say, nicely, I simply learn this paper that breast milk is best than bottled milk. And the pediatrician who was lecturing up on the entrance of the room, he known as me bubbles. He stated, nicely, you already know, you could assume.
The science is behind us. So, you already know, there you go. So that you’ll like this Ruth. It’s not on level, nevertheless it was so patriarchal and misogynistic or no matter phrases you wish to say in med faculty. My class out of 100 was the primary class that had greater than 25 girls, 33 girls. So we took, in fact we took over the primary day of college, a clinician got here in and put up his slide.
It was a slide projector in the back of the theater and he was down entrance. The primary slide was a nude feminine slide. The second slide was a brand new feminine. The third slide was a nude feminine. In order that’s the way it was being taught. And no one knew one another within the class and other people, you already know, we had been type of. Wanting round.
I did greater than appeared round. I went out and get a microbiology professor good friend of mine who had a depraved humorousness. And he was within the med faculty realm. And I acquired a playgirl journal. It was in all probability the primary version in 1975. And I took out the male nude footage and he made slides. So two days later, when Buddy got here again To proceed his superior lecture.
We had the nude male slides within the entrance of his deck by the second slide, he had grabbed his little briefcase and ran out. I heard later that from my microbiology good friend. In a single day, they took down each nude feminine image that was littered all through anatomy and biology.
They took every little thing down. In order that’s direct motion. That’s not standing on a picket line and whining and complaining. It’s doing one thing.
Ruth: So you’re a trailblazer. Yeah, you’re a trailblazer. I like it. Okay. So now let’s discuss slightly bit extra in regards to the minerals and the nutritional vitamins and this stuff that proper.
The pharmaceutical firms don’t need us to speak about as a result of they need us to take the remedy. And now, such as you identified, they need us to be taking medicines for the remainder of our lives. They don’t, I imply, that’s the entire purpose, proper. Is to get us not simply taking the medication to take the medication for so long as they will probably get us to take them, ideally for all times.
Okay. As a result of that’s how they take advantage of cash, however you’re saying we really have to be sure that we’re, if we simply can get the fitting nutritional vitamins and minerals to really permit our physique to perform correctly. So what would you say are a number of the most essential issues that girls over 40 have to be centered on?
And the way do you even know the place to start? Prefer it feels it’s, it may well really feel so overwhelming. So how do you want, like, what are type of the fundamentals?
Dr. Dean We begin saying to individuals, I’m, and I say, we, on my own and my customer support, and I’ve a radio present, on-line radio present each Monday. And the message we put out is the worst is over since you’re right here.
And what we begin with is magnesium and magnesium is important for 80 % of recognized metabolic capabilities within the physique. All of the enzymes, every little thing from head to foot. Magnesium is important to make muscle tissue and nerves work. And the way they do that may be a nerve cell or muscle cell shall be opened up. The cell mineral ion channel shall be opened as much as permit slightly little bit of calcium into the cell.
To permit it to fireplace off and create the motion potential. After which, so, when that’s occurring, the cell is closed down, after which magnesium opens the cell up. And the calcium comes out. In case you don’t have magnesium for this perform, the cells type of get floppy and the calcium simply drives itself in inflicting twitching and spasms and burning and irritation and tightness and mind fog, and we now have 600 muscle tissue.
We’ve got 45 miles of nerves. So any of that may be affected, you already know, the attention twitching that I used. I’m a magnesium deficiency individual, you already know, poster baby. So I had the attention twitching and, you already know, swallowing issues, coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, Charlie horse, stressed legs. Tight shoulders, insomnia, complications, all of these are signs of even migraines.
Happily, I didn’t have migraines. So all these signs of the nerves and muscle tissue. And then you definitely get to the metabolic enzymes that magnesium works with. And that will be the digestion. You know the way our insulin is delivered to assist the glucose get into cells. simply how ldl cholesterol is made. The gene statin, the ldl cholesterol suppressing medication, they work on the identical enzyme that magnesium balances.
So statins will kill this, they, HMG CoA reductase. It’ll kill it. Whereas magnesium, if the physique wants extra calcium, it is going to manipulate the enzyme. If it wants much less, sorry, ldl cholesterol. If it wants extra ldl cholesterol, it is going to manipulate the enzyme and vice versa. So we’ve acquired a means for the physique to do issues correctly.
So, and your subsequent query goes to be, nicely, why aren’t we getting sufficient magnesium? We don’t get it in our meals anymore. It’s been farmed out of the soil and it’s very costly to, to place all of the minerals again within the soil. So I’m, you already know, a whole lot of my focus outdoors my on-line dietary complement firm.
It’s a biodynamic natural farm. I put every little thing into this farm. And if I attempt to eat totally off the farm with rooster eggs and all of the greens and fruits, I get all my magnesium deficiency signs again. I’ve been at conferences the place vegans and vegetarians will come as much as me after my magnesium lecture and say, nicely, I’ve twitching and this and that, however I’m ingesting 30 to 40 ounces of inexperienced drink a day.
I must be getting sufficient magnesium. And I say, nicely, clearly you’re not. After which they take my liquid magnesium and Significantly, they arrive again the following day they usually say, I really feel so significantly better. As a result of they’re principally very wholesome, as a result of they’re not consuming, you already know, in all probability not consuming the seed oils, not consuming straight sugars, and all the remainder of it which can be dangerous for us.
And the magnesium they had been lacking once they take it, it’s like, Oh, okay, my cells actually like that. And you’ll be doing all the fitting issues and consuming all the fitting meals and consuming very well. However what you’re saying is you’re nonetheless not getting the correct amount of magnesium as a result of it doesn’t exist in the best way that our meals is produced and manufactured and raised and grown anymore.
Ruth: So how are you aware, is principally everyone magnesium poor? I imply, is that simply type of throughout the board? After which how are you aware how a lot magnesium you have to be taking?
Dr. Dean: This will get into the issue of magnesium compounds versus stabilize the ion of magnesium. However I at all times say that any quantity of magnesium even the worst absorbed like magnesium oxide is a straight on laxative as a result of solely 4 % of it’s absorbed.
However individuals really feel higher once they take it. Research have proven that magnesium oxide helps individuals. So if in case you have any magnesium in your cupboard, you already know, begin taking slightly little bit of it. However when you take an excessive amount of of it, it’ll provide the laxative impact. And a whole lot of docs would say nicely, when you get the laxative impact, then that’s sufficient, your physique has absorbed sufficient.
That’s not the case. It’s simply acquired run proper by way of your physique and turn into a laxative and that was my drawback really. When Random Home requested me to jot down my Miracle of Magnesium guide again in 1999, I ran, I noticed my signs within the analysis I used to be doing. I ran out and acquired a bottle of magnesium as a result of I wished greater than was in my a number of and I instantly acquired the laxative impact with 50 milligrams.
So I needed to go on a ten yr search for an organization and eventually, I discovered a chemist who would make a non laxative stabilized ion of magnesium. And it’s the one one which’s out there. And so it’s my mission to let individuals learn about this, however like I stated, any magnesium, it’s going to assist. However when you’re on a half a dozen medication and feeling all of the signs head to foot, you want extra magnesium.
That’s not going to make the laxative impact magnesium compounds. After they get into the bloodstream, they’ll disassociate. It’s known as. into the 2 elements, magnesium and the citrus citric acid, the magnesium and chloride, magnesium and the glycine. And it’s solely separated for a break up second. And it’s solely in that break up second the place the ion of magnesium will leap right into a cell.
And do its work, however you already know, there are trillions of nicely tens of trillions of cells in our physique, so You already know, there’s at all times one thing occurring however we now have gotten to the purpose now with our Persistent PTSD as a rustic as a world. The horrible food regimen that persons are consuming the huge stress The shortage of minerals in our water that we now have to complement.
And what I’ve begun, nicely, it’s been years, however I’ve talked about complete physique meltdown that’s occurring in of us the place the thyroid is affected and weakened, particularly in girls after getting pregnant and childbirth, the thyroid may be very a lot. depleted. And what allopathic medication and different medication each do is that they wait until the thyroid is completely tanked they usually give thyroid hormone substitute.
I used to be on armor thyroid and after I made my magnesium product, I made a a number of mineral with all of the stabilized ions. And within the analysis and all I discovered 9 minerals that assist thyroid hormone manufacturing. 9 minerals. So I put it in amongst a complete of 12 minerals. Six weeks into taking my very own components and we had been testing it out.
My arms and toes acquired heat and I used to be extra hyper than regular. So I spotted, oh my gosh, my thyroid is kicked in. So I finished my arm or thyroid. Now, that is what the FDA doesn’t like to listen to. And I can inform you hundreds of individuals since then have been capable of get their thyroid hormone again. And we now have to warn individuals once you take this a number of mineral, you already know, remember that your physique might not want.
As a lot or might not want the thyroid hormone anymore. And that’s fairly highly effective. While you consider the constructing blocks which can be needed, the adrenal glands, they rely on sodium. And what are we telling individuals? Don’t eat salt, rely on the B nutritional vitamins, they usually’re not in our meals provide both, and vitamin C and magnesium.
Easy constructing blocks. And there’s potassium in there as nicely. Potassium is essential. Truly with magnesium most often, they assist the absorption of one another. So then you will have the intercourse hormones, you already know, when the thyroid is weakened it drags the adrenals and vice versa. After which it, there’s a drag on the intercourse hormones.
perimenopause. I don’t assume it’s regular. It’s simply been a reputation that’s been given to girls who I believe have complete physique meltdown they usually’re simply dragging on their thyroid and their adrenals and simply feeling horrible. Yeah. However this, the boron. There’s an entire listing of issues. Primary minerals that the intercourse hormones bend on in addition to ldl cholesterol.
Ruth: So, so how does, so magnesium, you’re saying it impacts ldl cholesterol as nicely?
Dr. Dean: Completely. So the various kinds of magnesium, that is fascinating to me. So are what, which is the kind of magnesium that folks must be taking if the magnesium is inflicting sub deficiency? Yeah. Sure. So. The advertising and marketing of magnesium prior to now, you already know, 10, what’s it, 15, 20 years?
I believe a whole lot of it’s primarily based on my guide, the Magnesium Miracle. It’s not this guide, it is a shorter type and an replace of all issues magnesium. However when you take a look at the advertising and marketing of a whole lot of these magnesium compounds, they’ll reference my guide or me. And what they’ve tried to do is say. Oh, you already know, MagniTML308.
On the entrance of the label 2000 milligrams and also you assume, Oh, my gosh, 2000 milligrams of magnesium. I’m all set. Flip the label round. Oh, I’ve to take three capsules in an effort to get solely 144 milligrams. Oh, my gosh. In order that’s type of promoting. And Then they do the magnesium L3 in a individuals. They did a research on rats and stated it was 7 % extra absorbed into the mind than a magnesium citrate primarily based on 7%.
They’ve satisfied the general public that they’re the one magnesium that may get into the mind. Any magnesium in its ionic state, you already know, once I get it disassociated, it is going to pop into the mind. In order that they’ve actually, you already know, and it’s an costly product as nicely. They’ve actually accomplished a disservice to the general public.
It’s closely marketed. It’s it’s comes out of China. We don’t know what’s occurring with it. And in some cases, they attempt to say that threonate is like threonine, which is a an amino acid that’s good for the mind, nevertheless it’s a threonate, which is a by-product of vitamin C. So it has nothing to do with something.
And the advertising and marketing of all of the others. Oh, nicely, you will get a magnesium malate and that’ll assist when you’ve acquired fibromyalgia and the tour a magnesium tour. It is going to assist the guts and this the glycine and glycine magnesium glycinate will do assist the intestine. But when it’s a magnesium deficiency that you simply wish to handle, you need the magnesium.
You don’t need the taurate or the malate. And that’s why I’ve the stabilized magnesium ion, 300 milligrams per dose, straight magnesium. Whereas you are taking A 500 milligram capsule of a magnesium compound. The magnesium half is 50 to 75 milligrams and the remaining is the add on. All the opposite stuff.
Ruth: So, however what you actually have to be centered on. So, I imply, that is all like very technical stuff that we’re speaking about and it’s straightforward to get overwhelmed with all of it. So, how do you method this when you’re simply desirous to. Enhance your well being, proper? How do you method this in a means that makes it actually easy to know, okay, right here’s precisely what I have to do, proper?
Simply give me, I hear this from my purchasers on a regular basis. Like, ah, I like listening to about all these items, however then I get overwhelmed and I don’t know the best way to implement it. So how do I’m going, like, what do I do? Simply inform me what to do step-by-step. So what are the steps? Let’s give like three steps.
Dr. Dean: Primary, get hydrated.
Okay. You want water and also you want sea salt in that water. So you are taking your physique’s weight in kilos, divide that in half, drink that many ounces of water per day. After which every quarter liter put And I’m going so as to add 1 / 4 teaspoon of sea salt. Good sea salt means one thing that has colour in it.
If it’s a white sea salt, it’s been too refined. However you don’t begin with 1 / 4 teaspoon. Simply begin with a pinch. And also you’ll get, it’ll style candy to you. It’ll style so significantly better than. Then water out of the faucet and water out of the faucet. It’s been filtered. It’s been chlorinated, perhaps Florida.
Florida. So we do need you to have non chlorine, non fluoride waters as a lot as doable. So you place within the sea salt, primary, hydration with sea salt. And quantity two, simply begin taking some magnesium. Like I stated, everyone’s acquired magnesium of their cabinet. I assure you, however you’ve in all probability put it apart due to the laxative impact.
If it’s a powder, put it in, in your sea salt water. After which sip that by way of the day so that you simply’re not simply taking one, one harsh dose like that may overwhelm your self and land in your gut. That’s a laxative of the liquid powders, even capsules, Ruth, individuals might take a magnesium capsule. and put that in water and attempt to dissolve it and drink that by way of the day.
I do know there’ll be binders and fillers in there, however you’re swallowing it anyway. And the third factor could be to come up with my guide. It’s a really it’s a very simple to learn, overview of magnesium, which is important for 80 % of recognized metabolic capabilities. After which on the finish of it, you could determine that, nicely, perhaps I ought to do this.
And as soon as individuals strive my Pico meter magnesium, they don’t look again. And that’s what you need from vitamins. You wish to really feel them work. My a number of minerals introduced my thyroid again and did an entire bunch of different issues. And my magnesium, it took away my coronary heart palpitations and a dozen different signs. So, it’s And what’s it?
The proof is within the pudding. Yeah. Nicely, I imply, that makes it really feel lots easier and undoubtedly much more doable. Eat the water, add the salt, which is in, which is completely reverse of what individuals inform us. Then take the magnesium, no matter magnesium you will have, simply. Begin taking extra magnesium and getting extra magnesium.
Ruth: It’s very attention-grabbing. I haven’t heard that prefer to unfold it all through the day and be ingesting it all through the day. So I actually like that. After which undoubtedly take a look at your guide. We are going to ensure that so as to add the hyperlink to your guide in our present notes. So when you’re listening to this, then you may simply take a look at the present notes and we will, and you’ll find the guide and to learn extra Carolyn, thanks a lot.